oh yeah.. i realised why mom kept complaining she could not log
on her email and other stuff...
and sis has been on my case about it too...
she sticks in the mobile broadband stick, and tries to log on to
everything without clicking on the "connect" button...
before anyone yells at me for being a bad teacher, i've taught
her how to do this many times, written it down and she's actually
done it before.. by herself...
she, no matter what she says, is just like my dad.. just refuses
to refer to what is written down
its amazing they were both teachers 
